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MUAKK<a href="https://bayanlarsitesi.com/balikesir-escort/" rel="nofollow">Balıkesir</a><br /><a href="https://bayanlarsitesi.com/bursa-escort/" rel="nofollow">Bursa</a><br /><a href="https://bayanlarsitesi.com/mersin-escort/" rel="nofollow">Mersin</a><br /><a href="https://bayanlarsitesi.com/konya-escort/" rel="nofollow">Konya</a><br /><a href="https://bayanlarsitesi.com/van-escort/" rel="nofollow">Van</a><br /><br />MUAKKÇisil1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-40840355869967564192022-02-07T17:10:49.023-05:002022-02-07T17:10:49.023-05:00I was searching for a drama or series. Don't r...I was searching for a drama or series. Don't remember exactly. It was a asian series. <br /><br />A young man turned into a woman and also a woman turned into a man. This woman is the case of his transformation. The thing is they don't role. And also the actors didn't change they were just crossdress. The man who became has a mother, sister and a girlfriend. I don't remember much he in his female form got periods and his mother helps take care of him. There are so things in this series. He sings in a cafe or something. I was looking for this series a long time.<br /><br />Please help me find this. Sunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08796011378942708447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-83932756536406392412013-04-12T08:01:57.106-04:002013-04-12T08:01:57.106-04:00Ma Boy was a really really good drama. You should ...Ma Boy was a really really good drama. You should go watch it. on YouTube. It has only 3 episodes though >< T^T I wished there were at least 16 xPAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17010648916408078893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-70869545598860347042012-10-18T12:40:59.593-04:002012-10-18T12:40:59.593-04:00This post was actually written before Ma Boy aired...This post was actually written before Ma Boy aired, and I still haven't gotten around to watching this drama. Your comments about it make me want to see it, though. It sounds much, much better than I anticipated. I'll move it up on my to-watch list!Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18062557298628072047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-45604180781724407922012-10-17T23:25:53.313-04:002012-10-17T23:25:53.313-04:00Thoughtful post. You are definitely right about mo...Thoughtful post. You are definitely right about most guy-dresses-as-girl moments in Korean media, but I must point out that you are wrong about Ma Boy. This drama doesn't make fun of femininity. The main character, Hyunwoo, just uses the female identity as a means to be able to be successful (in this set-up world, his female identity is a successful "CF Queen"). It's not for the audience's laughter. He doesn't hate or ridicule the skirts and wigs and lip gloss he has to wear-they are just a facet of life that he has to deal with in order to work in the industry. Also, there's this deeper element where we see that Hyunwoo actually feels disappointed in himself for having to lean on the Irene character to be successful (not because she's a woman, or a "lesser" gender, but because it's hard to deal with the fact that his true identity and merits haven't been enough to make it). He has an aura of sensitivity there, and it's not something you see in every drama, so I think that there's definitely something nice and unique to how Ma Boy treated the subject of cross-dressing.Alice20noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-81023380995853268932012-10-02T13:13:00.651-04:002012-10-02T13:13:00.651-04:00Really, I think Painter of the Wind and Coffee Pri...Really, I think Painter of the Wind and Coffee Prince are the only dramas that even tried to make their characters' gender bending believable. The other shows are too traditionally minded to deal with the cross-dressing in a realistic fashion—which is why the girl in To the Beautiful You gets away with so much lip gloss ;)Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18062557298628072047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-73292518758118009742012-10-02T06:00:30.309-04:002012-10-02T06:00:30.309-04:00after all these kind of dramas where the girl pret...after all these kind of dramas where the girl pretending to be a boy, which do you think is the best regarding acting like a boy and the appearance as well?? ONEhttp://www.google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-1727824175719456022012-09-21T08:22:05.793-04:002012-09-21T08:22:05.793-04:00Thank you! I'm also always interested in heari...Thank you! I'm also always interested in hearing more about the themes behind Korean dramas, not just the shows themselves. There aren't a lot of blogs out there that spend much time on that front, which is too bad. (But understandable, because it's really hard to come up with things to write about!) Another show that has an interesting presentation of possible homosexuality is Painter of the Wind, if you haven't seen it yet—it doesn't really tackle the issue head on, but the subtext of two girls maybe actually being in love is too prominent to miss.<br /><br />I really liked Protect the Boss for just the reasons you mentioned—in some ways it's a gender-bending drama, too. The female lead is a tough, aggressive leader and takes on a lot of the characteristics of the standard Kdrama hero.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18062557298628072047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-85211196230890348282012-09-20T22:16:19.217-04:002012-09-20T22:16:19.217-04:00i've just discovered this post and appreciate ...i've just discovered this post and appreciate it and all the great comments. it's nice to hear discussion of 'back' issues of kdramas. enjoyable tho' they are, there are many topics they avoid like crazy. homosexuality or questioning is one of them. it's part of what i liked about coffee prince first the female was comfortable with who she was as she was, quirky girl lead, but not typical. and Gong Yoo's character really did consider over the course of several episodes what his attraction to a 'male' might mean--and he was facing this set of questions in a pretty serious manner (except for the comic doctor visit scene where the doc is so old school i wanted to smack him). it did use the 'hidden identity' trope in a new way, but Gong's character was likeable to me in part because unlike many other kdrama men, he was actually considering that he might be gay. i thought that was new ground. at least in my short viewpoint. i'm 3 episodes into Protect the Boss and while I don't see gender identity swapping there, i did love the opening presentation of the female lead as physically tough, even aggressive, capable and feisty. she is the quirky diamond-in-the-rough girl we've seen many times, but with some skills to take on a sexually harassing boss---completely awesome. i'll watch more more interesting posting here. thank youCynthiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15075872536151043069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-32607317660820658642012-09-06T13:31:29.276-04:002012-09-06T13:31:29.276-04:00::does kdrama sneer at the mention of Secret Garde...::does kdrama sneer at the mention of Secret Garden:: <br /><br />The male lead in Secret Garden was kind of set up to be a little boy, so it seems natural that he would need someone to take responsibility for him ;)<br /><br />In some ways, I think I should give Secret Garden another try. I was expecting something totally different, and my intense hatred of the show might actually be caused by feeling let down that it wasn't really a fantasy drama revolving around a body swap mystery. Instead, it was a romantic comedy with a side-plot involving body swap. <br /><br />(Weird footnote: I loved Protect the Boss and hated Secret Garden, but they've totally blurred together into one show in my memory.)Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18062557298628072047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-89718582188215783692012-09-06T13:24:46.535-04:002012-09-06T13:24:46.535-04:00I agree about Painter of the Wind being the only g...I agree about Painter of the Wind being the only gender-beding drama that really explores how the girl's interior life and identity are effected by pretending to be a boy. (That was also the only drama where pretending to be a guy was both long-term and not optional—I got the feeling her adoptive dad wouldn't have stood for anything else.) <br /><br />For most of Painter, I was actually shipping Yoon Bok and her brother, which is just messed up and wrong =X Much like big age differences, fauxcest dramas tend not to get too into physical displays of affection. I couldn't believe there wasn't even a goodbye kiss at the end, though.<br /><br />Coffee Prince is my favorite gender-swapping drama, too. In some ways, Eun Chan's identity is involved. she did some struggling with not being feminine and the way people perceived her because of it. Like when Han Gyul's grandmother called her a "thing," instead of a girl: She was clearly hurt, and then asked him to piggyback her right afterward, as a way of getting him to affirm her femininity. Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18062557298628072047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-62111324040028452442012-09-06T10:21:41.547-04:002012-09-06T10:21:41.547-04:00I loved the exploration in Painter of the Wind of ...I loved the exploration in Painter of the Wind of the woman-confused-by-being-in-man's-role. Honestly, this drama is the only one that really deals with those issues very much. It's more about Yoon Bok's dilemma and how she deals with it. <br /><br />I think Coffee Prince is my fave of all these dramas, but it deals more with Han Kyul's coming to terms with his confusion as to his sexuality. It's not really about Eun Chan dealing with being in a male role and coming to terms with how society sees her (outside the coffee shop).<br /><br />Also, I've noticed that in kdramas where the male lead is so much older than the female lead there's very little skinship of any kind. Which can be very disappointing in a drama with awesome chemistry. So I'm not very surprised at the no kissing in Painter of the Wind.<br /><br />K-What?!?https://www.blogger.com/profile/03457391308156301703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-76067226271892172012012-09-05T21:14:40.176-04:002012-09-05T21:14:40.176-04:00Incidentally, I just rewatched the 3rd to last epi...Incidentally, I just rewatched the 3rd to last episode of Secret Garden (yes, your alllltime faaaavorite). But, I noticed this time around that after Kim Joo Won wakes up as his 21yr old self and can't remember anything, Ra Im goes to his horrible mother and tells her: "Please give me your son. I'll take responsibility for him." Granted, this is after evil Oma has pulled a million and one evil Oma shennanigans out of her evil fur cape collection - but, I was amused to see the phrase pop up out of a woman's mouth this time. Saranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-59338136875660393762012-09-05T20:27:17.974-04:002012-09-05T20:27:17.974-04:00Hmmm, maybe I will check that out.
Yeah there was...Hmmm, maybe I will check that out.<br /><br />Yeah there was some serious lesbian vibes going on lol, but all of the scenes with them were really beautiful. I thought the sexual tension between her and Han Do was so thick you could cut it with a knife, and then was so pissed when they never really kissed. WTF? I am probably going to do my review on it tomorrow. I wanted to write it today, but I started my new job yesterday and also got sick with a cold as well so I kind of passed out and slept forever after I got home from work today lol. I am about to watch TTBY and really want to pay attention to it and then will have to go to bed, so alas it will probably be put off until tomorrow. I can't wait for her to find out either!! But I like that Eun Gyul doesn't know, it makes it more interesting and I love the contrast between him being such an innocent character by nature but he has this big secret forbidden love. GENIUS!!!<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4952798172649226841.post-34703303576897006522012-09-05T08:23:44.732-04:002012-09-05T08:23:44.732-04:00I really like Moon Geun Young, too. (Random note: ...I really like Moon Geun Young, too. (Random note: You might actually want to watch the beginning of Autumn in My Heart to see her—she plays the female lead as a middle schooler, and is really wonderful. The rest of the series is probably not worth your time, but it's fun to see her as a kid.) <br /><br />I think the key to the ending of Painter of the Wind was the male lead's line about his apprentice being unable to live as either a girl or a boy—she couldn't be happy with anyone, because her identity was so confused by playing the opposite gender for most of her life. I didn’t think they had much chemistry, anyway...but totally loved the idea of Shin Yoon Bok running off to be with the gisaeng in the end =X<br /><br />As you said, the cross-dessing in TTBY is sort of different from most of the other shows: She's really just doing it for him, and isn't committed to being successful in the same way someone like Shin Yoon Bok is (or even the female lead in You’re Beautiful). I wonder how long it will be before she finds out he knows? (Erm. Or maybe I should come out and admit that I'm so excited for her to find out he knows that I can barely stand it?)<br />Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18062557298628072047noreply@blogger.com